BONUS EPISODE: What People Don’t Understand About Blackness

Michele and Igor chat with Brittany Packnett—activist, teacher, and co-founder of Campaign Zero. She addresses the FBI’s targeting of so-called black identity extremists, such as the Black Lives Matter movement advocates with whom she worked during the aftermath of Michael Brown’s killing in Ferguson, Missouri. Packnett also discusses how the whiteness of the Las Vegas shooter colored his coverage in the media, how white people can use their privilege to be good allies, code switching, and the worst Dove commercial of all time. Following this conversation, Michele and Igor speak with Rashad Robinson, the executive director of Color of Change, about the power of collective voices to change narratives.

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Michele Jawando is a vice president at the Center for American Progress. Igor Volsky is a vice president at the Center. Sally Tucker is the radio coordinator for Communications at the Center. Rachel Rosen is the senior director of Broadcast Communications at the Center.