Michael Steele is probably not who you’d usually expect to be our guest, but these are unusual times. The former Republican National Committee chairman and lieutenant governor of Maryland—and the first African American elected to statewide office in Maryland—joined the pod this week to discuss the present chaos riddling the ranks of the conservative movement with President Donald Trump at the helm and how that disorder has impacted his efforts to motivate voters of color. In fact, he doesn’t even try anymore. Come for the bipartisan conversation; stay for Steele’s take on Kanye.
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Daniella Gibbs Legér is the senior vice president for Communications and Strategy at the Center for American Progress. Ed Chung is the vice president for Criminal Justice Reform at the Center. Rachel Rosen is the senior director of Broadcast Communications at the Center. Kyle Epstein is the media relations manager at the Center.